I am not very much aligned on the fact that we should separate the good musicians, purists, not using the tools, and the bad ones, using construction kits or whatever.Right now I think construction kits and the like are still too far downstream of the aesthetics they're poaching for people of discernment to be fooled. But as the audience increasingly comes to expect this poseur-ish sound in a meta way, and as the tools become ever more esoteric (eg construction kits for adherents of music scenes composed of five people who met online) I suppose there comes a point where you won't be able to tell the fakes from the real deal - the new from the rehash -- just by listening. By then I think the bifurcation of existence into online vs offline will have become refined enough that you can't tell your friends in your music scene or their music from an AI so meeting them in person and finding out they're poseurs will be a crucial step. What this tells me is at the core we're interested in the process a human goes through making art, more than assessing the art.Yes, someone understand what the thread was getting at. Conventionality and novelty are difficult concepts in the current landscape of unlimited tools.20-30 years ago there was much simpler soft to use & mostly sample-based or straight MIDI workflow clean & clear & few distractions.. nowadays synths, sequencers, DAWs all over the place providing many distractions & also level of music shifting from musical creativity to one-finger dabbler stacking tons of FX way overmodulated or using 'construction kit' or 'MIDI chord packs'... Folks if you gotta buy a construction kit or a MIDI chord pack it's time to 'dabble' in some other hobby...
Also purpose of actually making music has changed, many want 'views' or 'comments' or weirder 'monetization' all adds up to dopamine hit. I see all kinda YT vids with dabblers having tons of equipment yet music is basic, tasteless & krappy. You don't need tons of stuff you need the concept of music you can make music in anything it's good to try simple workflows... I do music in simple 23 year-old tracker that's only 460kb-
For example, we cannot accurately recognize anymore whether a person has produced something by himself or whether it's from a sample pack. There are so many tools that we cannot authentically say which player is more novel than another.
For my own preference and usage, I don't use construction kits, I use either heavily modified presets or I create my own. Yet, the last thing I would do is to look down at people reusing more than I do.
Rightly using the material available is also a talent (that I don't have), and I will certainly not judge or look down at Daft Punk or Gorillaz (on the contrary) even if for some of their tracks they took a lot from contruction kits or other artists...
Good for them...
And Gorillaz and Daft Punk did bring a lot of lovely in their genre and are immensely successful for that.
Statistics: Posted by Jac459 — Tue Mar 05, 2024 8:13 am